tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-190326263026916588.post167255528797025149..comments2024-03-04T21:50:12.306+11:00Comments on Upon Hope: Why Capital Punishment is MoralMark Moncrieffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07988061141727262837noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-190326263026916588.post-69674094134187960552014-09-22T02:31:02.988+10:002014-09-22T02:31:02.988+10:00Dear Robert
If a murderer lives then he has escap...Dear Robert<br /><br />If a murderer lives then he has escaped justice...that is my position and everything else is nonsense. It constantlys amazes me that you think your murderer should be allowed to live, something you would be denied. <br /><br />Christianity for 1900 years supported Capital Punishment, so for Christians to now decide that they do not support it reeks of hypocrisy.<br /><br />"Even the most left-wing people I know believe in self defence". Great because now we don't have to have to argument that all violence is wrong as they so often try too.<br /><br />In closing, my argument does not have illogical jumps, you simply do not agree with it. <br /><br />MarkMark Moncrieffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07988061141727262837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-190326263026916588.post-43066500751954459862014-09-19T12:39:28.691+10:002014-09-19T12:39:28.691+10:00Some other points:
I think revenge has the connota...Some other points:<br />I think revenge has the connotation that it is beyond a reasonable level of retaliation. I don't think the legal system is intended to be a system of legitimate violence, that is just a necessary tool for trying to create a stable and peaceful society.<br /><br />To avoid killing an innocent man, we don't need to let 1000 guilty 'go free'. It just means we don't exterminate them. There's a false binary here that without killing someone, they've avoided punishment.<br /><br />"Is it civilized to allow the guilty a second chance when they have shown no mercy themselves?" <b>YES!</b><br />If our civilization is/was supposed to be deeply influenced by Christianity, how could you argue against this? An important point is that redemption doesn't come for free, it comes with repentance. How could someone possibly repent if they're dead?<br /><br />I don't believe that a murderer is beyond redemption (again, Christianity), but if they aren't, why couldn't we simply imprison them for life? You don't have to kill someone to keep them from sitting next to you on the train.<br /><br />How does taunting have anything to do with the situation?<br />Taunts sound like the sort of thing they'd enshrine in 18c.<br />A multiple murderer is obviously a serious danger to the community, so they should be jailed for life. not so that they are rehabilitated, but because they can't be trusted to act like a normal human being. Sentences should be more severe. that doesn't have to include death.<br /><br />Both murder and rape are horrendous. Murder more so.<br />Your complaint seems to be that the sentence was lenient. I agree! It doesn't logically follow that execution is necessary, though.<br /><br />My last three sentences more or less sum up my opinion on the topic generally.Robertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-190326263026916588.post-28878114306453477872014-09-19T11:44:06.898+10:002014-09-19T11:44:06.898+10:00Mark, there are some rather illogical jumps in thi...Mark, there are some rather illogical jumps in this.<br /><br />About the dog; Obviously a dog or other animal is considered totally different to a person in society. Most people eat animals, but does anyone outside of a very small perverted minority eat people?<br />Also, Even the most left-wing people I know believe in self defence, defence of a minor, or quite possibly a "civic duty" defence of someone else. Whether you have to resort to killing the aggressor is another matter, but most people would certainly give you the benefit of the doubt.<br />Note that self defence is different from pre-emptive attacks (which I don't think you mentioned) and post incident. How can you argue that seeking revenge on someone after the fact is any form of defence? If someone broke into my house when I was a baby, stole some things, trashed the rest, and gave me a bit of a beating, would I <b>now</b> be entitled to track them down and shoot them?<br />Robertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-190326263026916588.post-85207721369868263082014-09-18T05:56:48.433+10:002014-09-18T05:56:48.433+10:00Dear Mr. Doom
A very good point, I remember readi...Dear Mr. Doom<br /><br />A very good point, I remember reading how when Capital Punishment was used many criminals didn't carry weapons as the cost of something going wrong was too high.<br /><br />Mark MoncrieffMark Moncrieffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07988061141727262837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-190326263026916588.post-80242451532546787412014-09-17T15:52:00.803+10:002014-09-17T15:52:00.803+10:00Another reason for supporting capital punishment i...Another reason for supporting capital punishment is that it reduces the violence in other crimes. Carrying a gun when you commit a robbery might seem like a sensible precaution but when you know that if the gun is used you might be facing the gallows it becomes an insane risk rather than a sensible precaution.dfordoomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02306293859869179118noreply@blogger.com