No country has had a more inglorious beginning than Australia. Australia began as a prison, no other country can say that. And it all began on the 26th January 1788 and every year on that date we celebrate Australia Day, our national day. But this Australia Day was like all the others in recent memory, a day for Liberals at all levels to complain about Australia. It's too racist, it's celebrating an invasion and the genocide of the Aboriginal people. And it's not just the Left but also the Government gets in on the act, every year we have the media and the Government complaining that we are not a Republic. Why is modern Liberalism so unpatriotic?
Classic Liberalism was Patriotic, it believed in the Nation-State, it believed that there were things worth fighting for and dying for. It believed in National destiny, that each State should have it's own people and that each were unique and distinct and that they should remain that way. Social-Liberalism was unpatriotic in peacetime but just as Patriotic as Classical Liberalism in wartime, particularly if they were the Government. But from the 1960's it became obvious that was no longer Liberalism's opinion, it had changed.
Liberalism believes in the Autonomous Individual, that every person should be free to be self made. But they believed that that should happen within a man's own society. So Patriotism was quite right and proper, because a man can only be self made within his own society so that society must be protected and defended. The Liberals idea of society also needed protection and those ideas meant that the nation deserved the love of it's people. It was only natural in Liberal eyes that a Liberal nation should be loved by it's Liberal people. They were one people sharing a common heritage, a heritage that was celebrated because it had created a Liberal society and that together they had a common Liberal future.
Of course there were always dissenter's who believed in universal love, that Patriotism meant war and that war was not a Liberal value. But these opinions were normally private. Most Liberals did not see any problem with Patriotism.
The death of Classical Liberalism changed that, in fact it changed it so much that many people even think of Classical Liberalism as Conservative!
The idea that we are one people sharing a common heritage was now regarded as negative instead of as a positive. A common heritage meant that others were excluded, that heritage was bigotry. That Race, Ethnicity and Religious denomination were also bigotry because they were by definition exclusive and anything that is exclusive means that people miss out. Equality came into Liberalism in the 1830's, it wasn't always a popular idea but it became popular mainly because of Democracy. One man one vote was supported because it made all men, regardless of their social class equal. But equality is quite a radical idea, it cannot stop, logically equality means leveling, making everyone the same, removing all distinctions between people. Removing all barriers between people. Only then can we all really be equal, or as Liberals like to put it "become fully Human".
But Patriotism is an obstacle to this, if you love one people than you are being exclusive, you are being a bigot. If everyone is equal than Patriotism is wrong, it might even be evil. All people are equal, all cultures are equal, to love one small part of the world is just small minded.
To the Liberal mind this is logical and to be honest it is logical. It is entirely consistent with Liberalism, If people are to become Autonomous Individuals then all the things that define them must be destroyed, their Race, their Ethnicity, their Religion, their Sex, their Family and their Nation must be done away with. People cannot be allowed to love their country, that would be denying them the ability to become Liberal, to "become fully Human". The problem with this whole idea is that Liberalism itself is illogical. To love your own people, to love your own country, in other words to be Patriotic is entire natural, but Liberalism denied that we have a nature. To deny human nature is surely illogical.
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Wednesday, 27 January 2016
Friday, 22 January 2016
From Class Warfare to White Genocide
I don't often use the term "Cultural Marxism" because people use it as an easy answer. The term implies that our enemy is Communism, but Liberalism is not Communism and our main enemy is Liberalism. That of course does not mean that the two have nothing in common or that they have never influenced each other. They do have things in common and of course they have influenced each other.
They both believe that man is God and that man is capable of perfection. They are both of the broad Left, but they are not the same. But one idea that started out as communist has become an accepted part of Liberalism particularly Left-Liberalism and I intend to chart it's birth, mutation, current location and it's possible future. That idea is Class Warfare.
Class Warfare started as a Communist idea, as a reaction against Liberalism. It sort to find a way out of a Liberal or as Communists took to calling it the Capitalist system. Because the Liberal economic system is Capitalism, the idea that capital, or in everyday English money, should be unrestricted. That it should be free to invest in any industry or country without restriction. Communism was one of a number of Political Philosophies that did not agree with this and wanted it to end. Class Warfare became for Communists a way of both describing what was wrong with Liberal Capitalism but also how the system would bring about it's own destruction.
In short Class Warfare is the idea that there are two classes the Oppressed Class and the Oppressor Class. And that if you are being oppressed then you are in the Oppressed Class and that if you are not being oppressed than you are an oppressor and are a member of the Oppressor Class. What must never be forgotten is that no one is allowed to be neutral, if you are not being oppressed than you are an oppressor, Class Warfare is perpetual.
This idea is the most important idea within Communism, rivaled only by Historical Materialism, the idea that history is deterministic and that a Communism world is ultimately the way history will end. But Class Warfare is at heart a conspiracy theory, it believes like Nazism and Feminism that the basic nature of reality is conspiratorial. That there are special classes of people who are engaged in a conspiracy and that only they can see the true nature of this conspiracy and therefore only they can combat it and defeat it. Communism believes that the Rich conspire against the poor, Nazism believes that the Jews conspire against everyone else and Feminism believes that men conspire against women.
Once upon a time Liberalism rejected this kind of thinking, sadly those days are over. One branch of Liberalism came to accept many of the criticisms made against Liberalism. That it was exploitative, even though it didn't mean to be. Their response was to accept some Socialist ideas into Liberalism. this was Liberalisms first split. It took roughly 70 years before the contradictions within Liberalism lead to an even greater split in the 1950's.
Now within Communism Class Warfare was quite literal, it was warfare between different social classes. But within Left-Liberalism, Class Warfare wasn't called by that name, instead it didn't really have a name, but the idea came to dominate Left-Liberal thinking. The idea that there are special classes of people who are oppressed and that that means that there are classes of people who oppress. The opponents of Liberalism would come to call it "Identity Politics".
Why would Liberalism, any branch of Liberalism come to think like that?
Liberalism believes in the Autonomous Individual, that people are born as individuals but that society constricts and controls the individual. That all people are equal and that people should be free to be anything or anyone they want to be. That freedom is unlimited. If you believe that freedom is unlimited then people must be freed from the restrictions within their life. It is really the only moral option. So if you see that some types of people are not doing as well as other types of people then that is immoral and must be opposed. Liberalism then went looking for people who fitted that description and they found the Civil Rights movement.
Liberals had supported the Civil Rights movement even before it formally existed. But it was a fringe element, the early starters so to speak. Now that Identity Politics was front and centre the Civil Rights movement really took off. It is no coincidence that the 1960's was a very successful decade for the Civil Rights movement. It is no coincidence that the 1960's were a very successful decade for Feminists either. They both could claim that they were oppressed and they both did. And they both obtained much support, the same would happen for Indigenous Rights and for Gay Rights. Each made a case that they were oppressed and they joined the the list of approved oppressed peoples.
In 1964, the United States Congress passed the Civil Rights Act, what is of particular interest is that to achieve this Liberals destroyed one of Liberalism's prized ideals. The idea of freedom of association, that every one had to right to associate with any other person that they wished to and by definition the right not to associate with anyone they didn't want to associate with. In a fight between Classical Liberalism and Identity Politics, Identity won.
In Communist societies those who were class enemies were destroyed, they lost their money and their power, they lost prestige, often they lost their lives and this continued even onto subsequent generations. In Liberal societies Left-Liberalism and Feminism are not dominate, although they are powerful, so they cannot be as direct as the Communists were. They must try to remove the oppression, as they see it, piece by piece. They throw up new ideas and accusations constantly, and some stick. In recent times one of the ideas that has stuck is White Privilege.
The Left-Liberal argument is that Whites are a class, an oppressor class and they continue to be so successful because they have privilege. Unstated is that privilege is unearned and undeserved, I bet you have never heard someone say that but you still knew it. The idea of White Privilege appeals to Left-Liberals as it explains why their attempts to create what they believe to be a more equal society have failed. It has failed, they believe, because there are people who opposed it even though they claim to be on the side of the oppressed. No matter what you think or say or do if you are white then you are guilty.
This is the same argument the Nazi's used against the Jews. That they had unearned privilege, that they oppressed others simply by existing, that the only way to protect everyone else was to destroy the Jews. Millions of innocent people were murdered because of a conspiracy theory.
But Liberals are not Communists or Nazi's, Mass Immigration proves that. Not even Communists thought it was a great idea to invite millions of foreigners into their countries and to do it for more than 50 years. Liberals thought of that one. And they have been remarkably successful, it is rare to hear people say this is bad or wrong, instead you will hear people complain about it's "excesses", as if the basic idea is fine. White Genocide is not something that will happen in the future, it is something that is happening right now. Mass Immigration is White Genocide, the destruction of the family is White Genocide, the hollowing out of the real economy is White Genocide as they all prevent the formation of families, they prevent the birth of children and they will make White's a minority in every land where they were once the majority. Liberalism in all it's forms is coming to mean White Genocide.
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They both believe that man is God and that man is capable of perfection. They are both of the broad Left, but they are not the same. But one idea that started out as communist has become an accepted part of Liberalism particularly Left-Liberalism and I intend to chart it's birth, mutation, current location and it's possible future. That idea is Class Warfare.
Class Warfare started as a Communist idea, as a reaction against Liberalism. It sort to find a way out of a Liberal or as Communists took to calling it the Capitalist system. Because the Liberal economic system is Capitalism, the idea that capital, or in everyday English money, should be unrestricted. That it should be free to invest in any industry or country without restriction. Communism was one of a number of Political Philosophies that did not agree with this and wanted it to end. Class Warfare became for Communists a way of both describing what was wrong with Liberal Capitalism but also how the system would bring about it's own destruction.
In short Class Warfare is the idea that there are two classes the Oppressed Class and the Oppressor Class. And that if you are being oppressed then you are in the Oppressed Class and that if you are not being oppressed than you are an oppressor and are a member of the Oppressor Class. What must never be forgotten is that no one is allowed to be neutral, if you are not being oppressed than you are an oppressor, Class Warfare is perpetual.
This idea is the most important idea within Communism, rivaled only by Historical Materialism, the idea that history is deterministic and that a Communism world is ultimately the way history will end. But Class Warfare is at heart a conspiracy theory, it believes like Nazism and Feminism that the basic nature of reality is conspiratorial. That there are special classes of people who are engaged in a conspiracy and that only they can see the true nature of this conspiracy and therefore only they can combat it and defeat it. Communism believes that the Rich conspire against the poor, Nazism believes that the Jews conspire against everyone else and Feminism believes that men conspire against women.
Once upon a time Liberalism rejected this kind of thinking, sadly those days are over. One branch of Liberalism came to accept many of the criticisms made against Liberalism. That it was exploitative, even though it didn't mean to be. Their response was to accept some Socialist ideas into Liberalism. this was Liberalisms first split. It took roughly 70 years before the contradictions within Liberalism lead to an even greater split in the 1950's.
Now within Communism Class Warfare was quite literal, it was warfare between different social classes. But within Left-Liberalism, Class Warfare wasn't called by that name, instead it didn't really have a name, but the idea came to dominate Left-Liberal thinking. The idea that there are special classes of people who are oppressed and that that means that there are classes of people who oppress. The opponents of Liberalism would come to call it "Identity Politics".
Why would Liberalism, any branch of Liberalism come to think like that?
Liberalism believes in the Autonomous Individual, that people are born as individuals but that society constricts and controls the individual. That all people are equal and that people should be free to be anything or anyone they want to be. That freedom is unlimited. If you believe that freedom is unlimited then people must be freed from the restrictions within their life. It is really the only moral option. So if you see that some types of people are not doing as well as other types of people then that is immoral and must be opposed. Liberalism then went looking for people who fitted that description and they found the Civil Rights movement.
Liberals had supported the Civil Rights movement even before it formally existed. But it was a fringe element, the early starters so to speak. Now that Identity Politics was front and centre the Civil Rights movement really took off. It is no coincidence that the 1960's was a very successful decade for the Civil Rights movement. It is no coincidence that the 1960's were a very successful decade for Feminists either. They both could claim that they were oppressed and they both did. And they both obtained much support, the same would happen for Indigenous Rights and for Gay Rights. Each made a case that they were oppressed and they joined the the list of approved oppressed peoples.
In 1964, the United States Congress passed the Civil Rights Act, what is of particular interest is that to achieve this Liberals destroyed one of Liberalism's prized ideals. The idea of freedom of association, that every one had to right to associate with any other person that they wished to and by definition the right not to associate with anyone they didn't want to associate with. In a fight between Classical Liberalism and Identity Politics, Identity won.
In Communist societies those who were class enemies were destroyed, they lost their money and their power, they lost prestige, often they lost their lives and this continued even onto subsequent generations. In Liberal societies Left-Liberalism and Feminism are not dominate, although they are powerful, so they cannot be as direct as the Communists were. They must try to remove the oppression, as they see it, piece by piece. They throw up new ideas and accusations constantly, and some stick. In recent times one of the ideas that has stuck is White Privilege.
The Left-Liberal argument is that Whites are a class, an oppressor class and they continue to be so successful because they have privilege. Unstated is that privilege is unearned and undeserved, I bet you have never heard someone say that but you still knew it. The idea of White Privilege appeals to Left-Liberals as it explains why their attempts to create what they believe to be a more equal society have failed. It has failed, they believe, because there are people who opposed it even though they claim to be on the side of the oppressed. No matter what you think or say or do if you are white then you are guilty.
This is the same argument the Nazi's used against the Jews. That they had unearned privilege, that they oppressed others simply by existing, that the only way to protect everyone else was to destroy the Jews. Millions of innocent people were murdered because of a conspiracy theory.
But Liberals are not Communists or Nazi's, Mass Immigration proves that. Not even Communists thought it was a great idea to invite millions of foreigners into their countries and to do it for more than 50 years. Liberals thought of that one. And they have been remarkably successful, it is rare to hear people say this is bad or wrong, instead you will hear people complain about it's "excesses", as if the basic idea is fine. White Genocide is not something that will happen in the future, it is something that is happening right now. Mass Immigration is White Genocide, the destruction of the family is White Genocide, the hollowing out of the real economy is White Genocide as they all prevent the formation of families, they prevent the birth of children and they will make White's a minority in every land where they were once the majority. Liberalism in all it's forms is coming to mean White Genocide.
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Monday, 11 January 2016
The Thirty-Fourth Month
A good month overall, my fourth best ever!
Although practically every country is down on last month. My work situation is slowly improving, it has really taken a toll on me and the blog. I need for that to change and to get back to more sensible hours.
I have also added a new link Right Wing Fighter, check him out!
My best day this month was the 13th December when I had 117 visitors, my worst day was the 27th December when I had 26.
11th December-11th January
11th November-11th December
Ireland is the only country that is up this month and it is back in the top 10!
Although practically every country is down on last month. My work situation is slowly improving, it has really taken a toll on me and the blog. I need for that to change and to get back to more sensible hours.
I have also added a new link Right Wing Fighter, check him out!
My best day this month was the 13th December when I had 117 visitors, my worst day was the 27th December when I had 26.
11th December-11th January
| Entry | Pageviews |
|---|---|
United States
|
1073
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Australia
|
271
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Russia
|
82
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United Kingdom
|
66
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France
|
47
|
Germany
|
46
|
Ireland
|
35
|
China
|
32
|
India
|
28
|
Canada
|
20
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11th November-11th December
| Entry | Pageviews |
|---|---|
United States
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1318
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Australia
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323
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Russia
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212
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United Kingdom
|
111
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France
|
98
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Germany
|
59
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Ukraine
|
50
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China
|
49
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Canada
|
31
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India
|
27
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Ireland is the only country that is up this month and it is back in the top 10!
India is basically the same and every other county is down. Russia was over 300 at one point so it has fallen quite a way.
I have also had visitors from the following countries Belguim, Netherlands, Denmark, Switzerland, Portugal, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Croatia, Romania, Turkey, U.A.E., Pakistan, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, Vietnam, Burma, Malaysia, Philippines, Egypt, South Africa, New Zealand, Costa Rica, Trinadad and Tobago, Brazil
I look forward to seeing you all again.
Mark Moncrieff
Friday, 8 January 2016
The Five Types of Modern Liberals
When we think of modern Liberalism we can often think of them as one common "blob", all alike with nothing to distinguish between them. But that is of course not true. I often read on blogs, particularly but not exclusively American ones, Liberals being referred to as Communists and while it is true they share things in common the two ideologies are quite different. (Liberalism, Why We are not Liberals) (Communism, Why We are not Communists)
The five types of modern Liberalism are:
Classical Liberalism
Feminism
Left Liberalism, AKA Social Liberalism, AKA Wets
Right Liberalism, AKA Economic Liberalism, AKA Dries
Neo-Conservatism
The oldest of these is of course Classical Liberalism, in the 1800's Classical Liberalism was simply Liberalism. It looked like this:
Politically: Liberal
(Free speech, freedom of association, etc.)
Economically: Liberal
(Free Trade, free movement of labour, free movement of money)
Socially: Conservative
(The individual is important but the family is still the bedrock of society)
But from the 1880's Socialism began to have a profound influence upon Liberalism and from around 1900 Liberalism changed, mainly in it's economic ideas. It looked like this:
Politically: Liberal
(Free speech, freedom of association, etc.)
Economically: Socialist
(Government intervention in the economy, the welfare state)
Socially: Conservative
(The individual is important but the family is still the bedrock of society)
Then in the 1950's the contradictions within Liberalism became too great and it split at first in half and then in the 1960's it produced another splinter.
It split into Left Liberalism, Right Liberalism and then in the 1960's Neo-Conservatism.
The fifth branch of modern Liberalism is Feminism. It's history goes back to the 1840's, there were Feminist thinkers and writings before then but there was no movement. Only from the 1840's can Feminism be regarded as a movement. It's history with Liberalism was complex, Liberalism gave Feminism more support then it received from any other Political Philosophy. But it also turned it's back on Feminism for decades at a time and during those times Feminism was no more than a crackpot philosophy, even to Liberals.
Since the 1950's each branch of Liberalism has it's own beliefs and it's own spectrum of the ideas of Liberalism.
Classical Liberalism
It has remained more or less as it was, but has become an ever smaller branch of Liberalism. Most Classical Liberals took to calling themselves Conservatives, they are not.
Politically: Liberal
(Free speech, freedom of association, etc.)
Economically: Liberal
(Free Trade, free movement of labour, free movement of money)
Socially: Conservative
(The individual is important but the family is still the bedrock of society)
Right Liberalism
Here was were Classical Liberalism broke apart as they rejected Socialism and wanted to return to Liberal economics. Economics is supreme, trumping both politics and society. They are also known as Dries, because all they were interested in was dry economics
Politically: Liberal
(Free speech, freedom of association, etc.)
Economically: Liberal
(Free Trade, free movement of labour, free movement of money)
Socially: Mixed
(Some are Conservative, but sadly most reject even the concept of Society)
(Over time it moved from one to the other)
Economically: Socialist
(Government intervention in the economy, the welfare state)
Socially: Radical
(Society exists for the benefit of the individual, multiculturalism, mass immigration)
Neo-Conservatism
The idea of Neo Conservatism is simply silly, if your neo you cannot be a Conservative. Neo-Conservatives believe that they were loyal Liberals who got left behind by Left-Liberalism. They continue to believe that Liberalism is a moral force and that war can spread the benefits of Liberalism because people want freedom more than life, in their opinion a life without freedom is not life.
Politically: Liberal
(Free speech, freedom of association, etc.)
Economically: Liberal
(Free Trade, free movement of labour, free movement of money)
Socially: Conservative/Mixed
(The individual is important but the family is still the bedrock of society, although some deny that society exists)
The five types of modern Liberalism are:
Classical Liberalism
Feminism
Left Liberalism, AKA Social Liberalism, AKA Wets
Right Liberalism, AKA Economic Liberalism, AKA Dries
Neo-Conservatism
The oldest of these is of course Classical Liberalism, in the 1800's Classical Liberalism was simply Liberalism. It looked like this:
Politically: Liberal
(Free speech, freedom of association, etc.)
Economically: Liberal
(Free Trade, free movement of labour, free movement of money)
Socially: Conservative
(The individual is important but the family is still the bedrock of society)
But from the 1880's Socialism began to have a profound influence upon Liberalism and from around 1900 Liberalism changed, mainly in it's economic ideas. It looked like this:
Politically: Liberal
(Free speech, freedom of association, etc.)
Economically: Socialist
(Government intervention in the economy, the welfare state)
Socially: Conservative
(The individual is important but the family is still the bedrock of society)
Then in the 1950's the contradictions within Liberalism became too great and it split at first in half and then in the 1960's it produced another splinter.
It split into Left Liberalism, Right Liberalism and then in the 1960's Neo-Conservatism.
The fifth branch of modern Liberalism is Feminism. It's history goes back to the 1840's, there were Feminist thinkers and writings before then but there was no movement. Only from the 1840's can Feminism be regarded as a movement. It's history with Liberalism was complex, Liberalism gave Feminism more support then it received from any other Political Philosophy. But it also turned it's back on Feminism for decades at a time and during those times Feminism was no more than a crackpot philosophy, even to Liberals.
Since the 1950's each branch of Liberalism has it's own beliefs and it's own spectrum of the ideas of Liberalism.
Classical Liberalism
It has remained more or less as it was, but has become an ever smaller branch of Liberalism. Most Classical Liberals took to calling themselves Conservatives, they are not.
Politically: Liberal
(Free speech, freedom of association, etc.)
Economically: Liberal
(Free Trade, free movement of labour, free movement of money)
Socially: Conservative
(The individual is important but the family is still the bedrock of society)
Here was were Classical Liberalism broke apart as they rejected Socialism and wanted to return to Liberal economics. Economics is supreme, trumping both politics and society. They are also known as Dries, because all they were interested in was dry economics
Politically: Liberal
(Free speech, freedom of association, etc.)
Economically: Liberal
(Free Trade, free movement of labour, free movement of money)
Socially: Mixed
(Some are Conservative, but sadly most reject even the concept of Society)
Left Liberalism
The majority of Liberalism turned left, it did not reject Socialism or Communism. It instead believed that it could absorbed them and turn them Liberal. It succeed up to a point, it did turn Socialists and Communists into Liberals. But it didn't seem to notice, or mind, that it become influenced by both philosophies. Politically it started Liberal and moved towards a more Socialist model. This is most obvious when it comes to speech. It started by trying to be as open about free speech as possible. Free speech was the greatest of rights, it was what distinguished the Western free world from the Communist unfree world. But over the last 50 years that has died and at each stage it has been taken over by political correctness.
Politically: Liberal/Socialist/ Identity Politics
(Over time it moved from one to the other)
Economically: Socialist
(Government intervention in the economy, the welfare state)
Socially: Radical
(Society exists for the benefit of the individual, multiculturalism, mass immigration)
Neo-Conservatism
The idea of Neo Conservatism is simply silly, if your neo you cannot be a Conservative. Neo-Conservatives believe that they were loyal Liberals who got left behind by Left-Liberalism. They continue to believe that Liberalism is a moral force and that war can spread the benefits of Liberalism because people want freedom more than life, in their opinion a life without freedom is not life.
Politically: Liberal
(Free speech, freedom of association, etc.)
Economically: Liberal
(Free Trade, free movement of labour, free movement of money)
Socially: Conservative/Mixed
(The individual is important but the family is still the bedrock of society, although some deny that society exists)
Feminism
Feminism is such a mixed bag, for nearly every issue you can find Feminists who oppose each other, pro and anti pornography for example. As a general rule Feminism is Liberalism as applied to women. Most Feminists are of a Socialist bend, but we should never forget that Feminism quietly in the background supports Right-Liberalism as well. The Corporate world is a big supporter of jobs for the girls just as much as the Governmet and the NGO sector.
Politically: Socialist/Liberal
(More Socialist than Liberal)
Economically: Socialist/Liberal
(More Socialist than Liberal)
Socially: Radical
(What is good for Feminist women and the broad Left, it changes on which is more important women or the Left.)
Many people will tell you that Libertarians are Liberals, but Libertarians are Anarchists who support business. I do not think that Anarchists are Liberals. Although if Liberalism was to create the society they wanted only Libertarians and Anarchists would be around.
It is important to be able to tell the difference between the different types of Liberals that we see. I hope this helps!
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(More Socialist than Liberal)
Economically: Socialist/Liberal
(More Socialist than Liberal)
Socially: Radical
(What is good for Feminist women and the broad Left, it changes on which is more important women or the Left.)
Many people will tell you that Libertarians are Liberals, but Libertarians are Anarchists who support business. I do not think that Anarchists are Liberals. Although if Liberalism was to create the society they wanted only Libertarians and Anarchists would be around.
It is important to be able to tell the difference between the different types of Liberals that we see. I hope this helps!
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